2024 is going to be the beginning of the end of us all

No I’m not catastrophising.

The world is slowly lurching towards a fully fascist led America, India, Hungary, Russia, Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Argentina.

Instead people are either ignorant or blaming “wokeism”* for their problems.

I have no clue what to do and this is literally a car crash in slow motion.

I’m despondent because I’m going to be crushed under the boot when the time comes and my morals get in the way of my survival instinct.

Humans are repeating the mistakes of the past. It’s just so anxiety inducing.

*Woke is a useless term promulgated by fascists to dog whistle the things they really want to hate - feminism, socialism, LGBTQIA+, immigration, brown/black people, equality and diversity.

Thief_of_Crows ,

I don't know the politics of most of those places, but Russia and America definitely are not fascist. Oligarchy is not the same as fascism, though they are certainly good friends. America is no more fascist today than it was when our capitalists were helping out the Nazis. The government is not fascist, only our capitalists are pseudo fascist. The same is true in Russia.

Dackel ,

Ok maybe Austria will get these fascist assholes in power. Thats bad because Austria is like a playground in politics if it could happen in Austria it could happen in Germany too
and then everywhere else.

KeenFlame ,

Yeah you poor souls are truly living in an anti democratic fascist oligarchy and man I wish I could do something to help.. God save us all for what will happen when the time comes to pay for someone with weapons

sagrotan ,
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I find it fascinating that so many people realize that this happens but very few actually do something against it. I don't mean demonstrating, although that's a good thing and better than nothing, but what to do to fight fascism on a sustainable, more permanent level? Fight disinformation wherever you meet it, don't ever ignore it. Ever. Spray cans and large permanent pens are your friend in the beginning. No paroles. Truth. Do something for/ with the youth in your area, even if they laugh at you or ignore you, they WILL think about it in the end. Network. Talk to all kinds of people, again, no paroles, just listen to their problems, then lead them carefully on a way and let them decide themselves. Very many will come to a human conclusion. And make it clear to the rest, that the fascists will take their money first. Compare them to con men, because that's what they are. One last thing: "shock therapy" does NOT work (anymore). People filter much easier today. Any more suggestions? I mean real ones, not "shoot them all" BS

adorable_yangire ,
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im gonna do something abt it and the something abt it i will do is having a panic attack and crying

AMillionNames ,

To fight disinformation, you first have to know what disinformation is, and the people being activists don't really care about how much of a hypocrite they are acting as or on what vague presumptions they are or aren't acting on. My suggestion, do what Cambridge Analytica did and has continued to exist under Emerdata and competitors, but make the data collected and the inferred relations visible to all so that people can see their surrounding and other people's surroundings and get a notion of how and why they might be getting affected by them. Instead, we have people arguing that keeping functionality already visible to admins, and easily subject to manipulation, but hidden to the rest of the users, like upvotes and downvotes, should be kept hidden in social networks supposedly intended to be more transparent. Not even going to bring up some of the people leading those networks. I have little hope.

Ascend910 ,

I don't know what is missed
And at this moment, I am too afraid to ask

LordGimp ,

The beginning was harmbe. 2024 is just how far we have strayed from God

Fungah ,

My dick is still out

ArdMacha ,

You forgot about the UK

csolisr ,

About the only palliative measure I can think about is to disengage from society completely, as it's no longer possible to correct it, and go live in the middle of nowhere until the planet eventually goes to hell. Or until society decides to go fully nihilistic and self-terminate.

Pharmacokinetics ,
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Because all the vets have died off.

Maggoty ,

Most of the generation that saw that war have died, not just the vets. The living memory of world war and fascism is gone.

Pharmacokinetics ,
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The one thing the Nazis did right was their propaganda. Even at our day, it succeeds in poisoning the impressionables.

Maggoty ,

Their submarines were pretty good. But then the Navy was some of the least infected parts of their regime so that tracks. They made good tanks and planes before Hitler got involved and those became prestige projects instead of real projects. (Thinking Pz3 and BF109 early)

But yeah you've got to really pick the carcass apart to find stuff. Turns out being a meth addled extremist surrounded by other meth addled extremists isn't a great way to run a country.

Olhonestjim ,

Well then the good thing is they still have meth.

Dr_Satan ,

Anger (trauma...anxiety... the whole knot) comes first. Then the propaganda sells you an efficient, socially accepted (well, to the right society) form of rationalization and expression. IE a story and lifestyle to process the emotions.

Say what you will about the ism, but the emotions must be processed. One way or another.

My point is, nazi is a shoe. The impressionable traumatized dude is the foot looking for a shoe.

Random_German_Name ,
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Organize. The old world is dying, the new world is yet to be born. We are standing at a tipping point not only regarding climate change, but also regarding the future of humanity. It is up to us, how we act and how the new world will look like.

And even if we loose: Its harder to deport and/or kill you, if a bunch of other people got your back.

in4aPenny ,

What counts as "a bunch of other people" because fascists will famously eradicate entire families that go against the grain.

Random_German_Name , (edited )
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In my case: I have ~7 very, very close friends, ~70 people, that are part of our direct network, ~160 people that are indirect part of our network and ~300 people I know of, that sympathize with us. Most people in the network are between 18 and 34 years old and have some experience with getting beaten up by police, can tank some punches and know how to fight in a fistfight.

Thing is: The fascists don‘t know every member of our network. Even I don‘t know every member, I only know a person, that knows a person, that knows the guy who can do me a favor.

Resol ,
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Don't forget Belgium, specifically in Flanders.

Syrus ,

Man shut the fuck up, you're clueless

Arthritis_god_of_the_hunt ,
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The fascist party is polling at 30% the party they split off in the 70s is polling at 20% it's not good.

Syrus ,

What else is new? Ask yourself why they are getting these votes? You don't have to believe me but it's the only way to understand the issue. Like i said you ppl are clueless.

Arthritis_god_of_the_hunt ,
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Why? Failures of neoliberalism. The increase in wealth inequality, the refusal to adress issues structurally, and the appeasement of fascism to name a few.

Resol ,
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You probably haven't heard of Vlaams Belang.

Syrus ,


PriorityMotif ,
ytg ,


(Don’t forget Israel!)

edu4rdshl ,
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Why is this irrelevant nonsense on the memes community tho.

5redie8 ,

It's basically this site's ... thing

c0mbatbag3l ,
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Yeah I've noticed I'm spending less and less time here the more every community either devolves into doom and gloom politics or Linux.

Reddit sucks, Tildes is too small to matter, but Lemmy just doesn't have any kind of variety whatsoever. The niche communities all died out in June after the people who thought they'd be kick starting them for the reddit Exodus had to carry them with no conversation or posts, and now it's just this shit in every community.

Cowbee ,

It's not irrelevant nonsense. If you think it is, go to .world's meme instances, rather than .ml's.

edu4rdshl ,
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What should I expect for a "memes" community? A post about irrelevant politic bs with no proofs but just woke shit? No thanks.

Cowbee ,

You're on a leftist website, lol. It's going to be "woke shit."

edu4rdshl ,
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On a memes community? I don't expect that, anyways, I already left this so let stop it right here.

Cowbee ,

You asked the questions, don't be upset for getting answers, lol.

edu4rdshl ,
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Upset? I'm just explaining what happened, learn to read.

Cowbee ,

After getting upset, of course.

KyuubiNoKitsune ,

Don't forget Sweden

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